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Catholic view of Purgatory ... Is it real?

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Michael said,

If you require that forgiveness is dependent on a complete and completely accurate understanding of theology then your position does not differ from that some Protestants like to accuse the RCC of - that of condemning anyone who doesn't agree with their understanding. The difference is the RCC does not do this and you seem to.

Mike says,

Why you would say such a thing? Can you show where I have condemned anyone for not agreeing with me? My ministry here at CCEL is recorded and can be found as quite the opposite. Especially since I expounded in the same post (repeated below) how I believe God works in the heart of man to bring them to salvation.

Mike said -
My belief is such that once the Holy Spirit convicts a person of sin, whether they are catholic, protestant or muslim, the journey begins. (John 16:8-9)
There is conviction of sin.
There is a sensed need of forgiveness.
God introduces His grace by the Word,
Convicted sinner learns of Christ.
Convicted sinner asks Christ for forgiveness.
New Life is given.
So how can a "moslem" be a follower of Him without knowing about Him (Jesus)?
How can a "moslem" ask forgivness of sin without the cross?

If anyone sensed condemnation because of that, then perhaps it is the Holy Spirit at work?

After all, without Christ, that is exactly where man stands .. condemned.. The message of the Gospel provides an escape from that condemnation.

And ..

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

"Divine Grace is not opposed to effort ...
it is opposed to earning "

"Divine Grace is not opposed to effort ...
it is opposed to earning "
— Dallas Willard