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Call no man father.

De Maria's picture

Hello all,

On another topic, the Esteemed Julabee Jones is castigating Catholics roundly for calling priests, father.

She bases that opinion on Jesus' injunction, "call no man father". Now I don't see any qualifications there. Jesus didn't say, don't call priests father. He said
And call no man your father upon the earth.... Matthew 23:9

Yet, I've met no one, Protestant or Catholic, who doesn't call their dad, father. Except a few disrespectful children.

So I was wondering, what do you call your father? A question, by the way, which the sweet Julabee, has yet to answer.


De Maria

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re: Jeff asked Isn't the

Hello Jeff,

Jeff writes -
You might be right. I am not trying to be cute here, I just wonder if they understand it as you say they should. I tend to think they have come to place explicit authority with their priest and have in practice, if not in profession, made him their spiritual guide. And, I differentiate here between two methods of spiritual guidance. One is persuasive and the other is coercive. The first allows for disagreement. The later does not. The one method allows the Holy Spirit to guide the conscience while the other method tends to be their conscience. In other words, the "lording over" happens when the leader requires the individuals to submits their will to him such that he tells them what they must believe and do. The last scenario can carry grave consequences if the student doesn't accept every instruction. And, the voice of the guide can drowned out the voice of the Holy Spirit or even override it, at times.

What you express here is a great deal of distrust of men in general. The idea that a man must lord it over someone in order to be their spiritual guide and to shape their conscience is unfortunate.

Scripture does not seem to share that sentiment. God wants us to be obedient to those whom He put in authority over us.

Titus 3
Doing What is Good
1Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient,
to be ready to do whatever is good, 2to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men.

That includes those whom He put in charge of our souls:
Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Your statement seems to head on against what God says in Scripture should be our attitude towards our leaders in the Church.


De Maria