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Call no man father.

De Maria's picture

Hello all,

On another topic, the Esteemed Julabee Jones is castigating Catholics roundly for calling priests, father.

She bases that opinion on Jesus' injunction, "call no man father". Now I don't see any qualifications there. Jesus didn't say, don't call priests father. He said
And call no man your father upon the earth.... Matthew 23:9

Yet, I've met no one, Protestant or Catholic, who doesn't call their dad, father. Except a few disrespectful children.

So I was wondering, what do you call your father? A question, by the way, which the sweet Julabee, has yet to answer.


De Maria

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re: DM writes - I don't agree


Yes, that is what I am saying. Therefore, we should not place our spiritual outcome in the hands of any earthly man to be directed by him as to how we should act and think. That is for our Father of fathers to do by His Holy Spirit. Jesus is our Lord and only He retains the prerogative to be our Lord. No man should lord over us acting as our conscience.

Actually, no. That isn't what God says at all. God has always put men in charge of other men. Scripture is clear:

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Lets break that down.

1. Obey them that have rule over you
2. Submit yourselves
3. For they watch your souls
4. And must account for your souls
That sounds to me as though God is telling me that HE has put MEN in charge of me and that I must OBEY them.

And, as far as teachers. We should not place all our trust in human teachers as if they cannot error. We must place our trust in Jesus, the Teacher of all teachers, the only one who cannot error. This means that at times we may have to disagree with our earthly teachers so that we may agree with our Heavenly Teacher.

Close, but not quite. The Scriptures are infallible. I believe the Scriptures. And the INFALLIBLE Scriptures say that the Church is the Pillar of Truth. Therefore, I believe the Church is infallible and worthy of our belief.

The Scriptures also say, "hear the Church. If anyone does not hear the Church, treat him as a heathen." Therefore, I understand that as a command that I must always believe the Church.