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Call no man father.

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Hello all,

On another topic, the Esteemed Julabee Jones is castigating Catholics roundly for calling priests, father.

She bases that opinion on Jesus' injunction, "call no man father". Now I don't see any qualifications there. Jesus didn't say, don't call priests father. He said
And call no man your father upon the earth.... Matthew 23:9

Yet, I've met no one, Protestant or Catholic, who doesn't call their dad, father. Except a few disrespectful children.

So I was wondering, what do you call your father? A question, by the way, which the sweet Julabee, has yet to answer.

Sincerely,

De Maria

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re: The statement IS the injunction

Honored De Maria;

Wonderful! I feared we were cooling off slightly to this marvelous subject, as in the other thread you'd taken a protracted leave of absence.....God bless, and my sincerest thanks for your having continued this marvelous discussion here, as it was getting crowded out in the other thread. I have much more to share with you, but other responsibilities intrude, and I must bid you adieu until later.

Humbly, I am and remain sincerely yours in Jesus Christ, abiding in the Doctrine of Christ as it were,

Julabee Jones

Ahh esteemed Julabee,

I marvel at your ability to multiply words but division is your shortfall (2 Tim 2:15)

In the other thread you said:
Please forgive my mental slowness, but I'll have to wait for further elaboration from you on that. For inasmuch as I can tell, Jesus knew exactly what He said, the disciples and apostles knew exactly what He said. And if we read the passage, we'll know exactly what He said,

"But be not ye call Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.'

'And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.'

'Neither be ye called master: for one is your Master, even Christ". Matt 23: 8-10.

The key word here is YOUR. Let me highlight it for you:
'And call no man YOUR father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.'

We don't call Priests OUR Fathers, MY father or YOUR father.

We use the word Father as a title for priests. The custom is from Scripture:
Judges 17:10
And Micah said unto him, Dwell with me, and be unto me a father and a priest, and I will give thee ten shekels of silver by the year, and a suit of apparel, and thy victuals. So the Levite went in.

Note that he does not say, "MY" father and priest.

In the same way, we never refer to OUR priests as OUR fathers.

For example. If we speak of the priest at our parish, we will say, Fr. Dan is the priest at our parish.

But if we look at the words of Jesus Christ in the Bible, He did not say, "don't call priests your father" But call "no man your father". So, and I understand your reluctance to answer the question Julabee, what do you call "your" dad?

Sincerely,

De Maria




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