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One Flesh Union - Christ and the Church

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What is the One Flesh Union concerning Christ and the Church?

I have posted a version of this question in the Biblical Studies because I believe it is a beautiful question to ponder. And another version in the interdenominational Discussions to see how we view this mystery as expressed in the Sacrament of Matrimony differently.

But I have really been waiting patiently and anxiously for quite a long time to post this particular question on this forum because in another discussion here, the Catholic view of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church was called blasphemous. Specifically this teaching from the Catechism.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."

Our understanding of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church is based upon this verse.
Ephesians 5:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Now, it seems to me that our understanding lines up pretty well with Scripture.

And so, I posted this particular thread to see how your views contrast with the Catholic view of this greatest and most wonderful of mysteries.


De Maria

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re: Is the Church without spot or wrinkle already?

Is the Church without spot or wrinkle already?

Is the Word of God infallible? If the answer is yes, then the Church is infallible in its doctrines. Because its doctrines are the Word of God.

Is the Word of God without spot or wrinkle? If the answer is yes, then the Church is without spot or wrinkle in its doctrines. Because in its doctrines She teaches the Word of God.

JW said,

We are One in CHRIST . . . if we do HIS Will and follow in HIS Footsteps . . . but we are the sinners . . . not the Church . . . not CHRIST . . . not GOD . . . when we do bad things.

Mike says,

Church ... Christ ... God ....

Is that a Trinity of sorts?

Of sorts. God, Church (body of Christ, pillar of Truth, household of God), Holy Spirit.

I find that the "Roman Catholic Church" is an entity that is being deified, and is seperate from the people in it.

I find that the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus Christ built, is infallible as He said it would be and will exist in perpetuity as He said it would do. I find that the Catholic Church if it is deified, is so deified in the Scriptures, which speak very highly of the Church.

Ephesians 3:10
His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms,

What happened to one flesh?

I don't know to what you refer. We believe we are one flesh with Christ.