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One Flesh Union - Christ and the Church

De Maria's picture

What is the One Flesh Union concerning Christ and the Church?

I have posted a version of this question in the Biblical Studies because I believe it is a beautiful question to ponder. And another version in the interdenominational Discussions to see how we view this mystery as expressed in the Sacrament of Matrimony differently.

But I have really been waiting patiently and anxiously for quite a long time to post this particular question on this forum because in another discussion here, the Catholic view of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church was called blasphemous. Specifically this teaching from the Catechism.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."

Our understanding of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church is based upon this verse.
Ephesians 5:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Now, it seems to me that our understanding lines up pretty well with Scripture.

And so, I posted this particular thread to see how your views contrast with the Catholic view of this greatest and most wonderful of mysteries.


De Maria

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jwmcmac comments: The Church

jwmcmac comments:

The Church did pay heed . . . but was in shambles at the time . . . very poor Faith all around . . .


That's very honest, thank you! But when the agency that you believe guides mankind in matters of faith and morals, is herself in shambles - with poor faith and poorer morals - then where does man turn? Except he turns away to follow his own conscience, right?

It might have taken God years to get man to see the truth, but in all those years God Himself was unchanging. He Himself was never in shambles. Christ was never found wanting - even when every man around Him was. And so it should be with a church that claims to have God-given authority in matters of faith and morals, don't you think?

The higher the calling, the higher the standards that are expected. So before worrying about non-believers and condemning heretics, the church should have and still should worry about those within its own ranks who claim to have doctrinal truth, but walk in wilful disobedience to God..and such she should act swiftly against to retain its moral authority...pay attention to the plank in one's own eye first..