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One Flesh Union - Christ and the Church

De Maria's picture

What is the One Flesh Union concerning Christ and the Church?

I have posted a version of this question in the Biblical Studies because I believe it is a beautiful question to ponder. And another version in the interdenominational Discussions to see how we view this mystery as expressed in the Sacrament of Matrimony differently.

But I have really been waiting patiently and anxiously for quite a long time to post this particular question on this forum because in another discussion here, the Catholic view of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church was called blasphemous. Specifically this teaching from the Catechism.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."

Our understanding of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church is based upon this verse.
Ephesians 5:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Now, it seems to me that our understanding lines up pretty well with Scripture.

And so, I posted this particular thread to see how your views contrast with the Catholic view of this greatest and most wonderful of mysteries.


De Maria

jwmcmac's picture

Mike . . . as to your

Mike . . . as to your discernment of personal Salvation in CHRIST . . .

. . . good for you and GOD Bless you in this discernment . . .

I think De Maria is not dismissing or lacking in Rejoicing with you and for you . . . but in general . . . it is of no concern to him or to me or to anyone else that GOD has, according to you, Blessed you with this personal and private 'Revelation' as to your salvation.

We are very happy for you and we 'Rejoice' with you . . . if it be True . . . and I have no reason to doubt it . . . but . . . I did not receive the 'Revelation' about your personal Salvation, as did you so receive it.

As to membership in the Body of CHRIST . . . you are correct that many may be members without being specifically 'formal' members of the Catholic Church . . . perhaps . . . just as many may 'not be' members of the Mystical Body of CHRIST while they 'are' members of the Catholic Church . . . this due to their 'unrepentant' sins.

What I was saying is that 'Discerning' the Body of CHRIST happens on many levels . . . only one of which is Membership in the Church, physical or Spiritual Membership . . .

. . . with other levels of Discernment being . . .

. . . HIS Sacramental Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist

. . . HIS Very Real Human Body and Blood which was Sacrificed at Calvary and which is now Glorified in Heaven . . . where HE stands as the Lamb of GOD . . . "Standing on the Altar as if slain".

I do Hope that your personal Revelation is True . . . and if so . . . I do Rejoice with you.

GOD Bless you and us all.