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One Flesh Union - Christ and the Church

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What is the One Flesh Union concerning Christ and the Church?

I have posted a version of this question in the Biblical Studies because I believe it is a beautiful question to ponder. And another version in the interdenominational Discussions to see how we view this mystery as expressed in the Sacrament of Matrimony differently.

But I have really been waiting patiently and anxiously for quite a long time to post this particular question on this forum because in another discussion here, the Catholic view of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church was called blasphemous. Specifically this teaching from the Catechism.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."

Our understanding of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church is based upon this verse.
Ephesians 5:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Now, it seems to me that our understanding lines up pretty well with Scripture.

And so, I posted this particular thread to see how your views contrast with the Catholic view of this greatest and most wonderful of mysteries.

Sincerely,

De Maria

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re: Full "Bodied" Truth.

DM said,

It just occurred to me that Catholics have greater Assurance than Protestants.
Protestants claim they are absolutely assured of Salvation.
The Catholic Church claims infallibility and thus assurance of Truth which God says we shall know and knowing the Truth will make us free.

Mike says,

Many claims (catholic & protestant) are made as per Matthew 7:21.

Assurance of salvation is given to real christians who have salvation,
are in the body of Christ and are ONE with Him, that know Him and fear not the rebuke of Christ in Matthew 7:23 "depart from me, I NEVER KNEW you"

Who judges who are these real Christians? Obviously, the people in Matt 7:23 did not expect the rebuke they received. They seemed surprised. But Jesus judged them reprobate.

Therefore, who do you say makes the judgement at to who is a "real Christian"?

DM quoted,

John 8:32
And ye shall
know
the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Mike says,

The Truth that must be
known
is Christ Himself, then you can walk in freedom.

Many sit in a prison cell with open doors and won't walk out.

Perhaps. By the same token, many claim they are free who sit in a prison cell.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
John 14:6

Mike

It remains that we don't judge ourselves free or bound. We only obey the Word of the Just Judge and accept His judgement.

Sincerely,

De Maria




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