One Flesh Union - Christ and the Church

De Maria's picture

What is the One Flesh Union concerning Christ and the Church?

I have posted a version of this question in the Biblical Studies because I believe it is a beautiful question to ponder. And another version in the interdenominational Discussions to see how we view this mystery as expressed in the Sacrament of Matrimony differently.

But I have really been waiting patiently and anxiously for quite a long time to post this particular question on this forum because in another discussion here, the Catholic view of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church was called blasphemous. Specifically this teaching from the Catechism.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."

Our understanding of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church is based upon this verse.
Ephesians 5:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Now, it seems to me that our understanding lines up pretty well with Scripture.

And so, I posted this particular thread to see how your views contrast with the Catholic view of this greatest and most wonderful of mysteries.


De Maria

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Jq said: "I wonder, could

Jq said:

"I wonder, could you repeat the Catholic understanding of the Trinity? Is it three persons, or one manifested in three forms?"

jwmcmac comments:

I have stated elsewhere more lengthy explanations of this . . . but in short . . .

FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT . . . One GOD in Three Divine Persons . . . each Divine Person Being the One GOD and all three together Being the One GOD.

A Divine Family WHO are One in Unity and in Love and in Divine Will and in Action . . . inseparably the ONE GOD . . . One Divine Nature . . . One Divine Substance.

The Second Divine Person proceeding from the First Divine Person . . . as from a rib . . . so to speak . . . always in the FATHER from all Eternity . . . and the Third Divine Person proceeding forth from the Mutual Love of the First and Second Divine Persons of the BLESSED TRINITY as Living Love . . . so to speak . . . and this also from all Eternity.

In CHRIST, the Divine Nature took on a Human Nature in a Hypostatic Union of Two Natures in One Divine Person, WHO is JESUS CHRIST . . . True GOD and True Man.

Some of that is my wording . . . but that is the gist of it.

GOD Bless you and us all.