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Heaven or hell.

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If a baby (child) died immediately after birth. Where will the child go?

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re: Heaven or hell Submitted by mferszt


I read your comment "...whether I am saved or not is not for me to decide..." with a certain amount of sadness.

Thank you for your concern. Certainly as Christians we must all be concerned for each other and our eternal destination.

If you dropped dead this very minute, what could possibly prevent you from being in your Savior's arms the next (...or the next day, or the next millenium, etc., etc., etc.)?

I don't know. But I am following the example of St. Paul. Let me show you.

1 Corinthians 4:4-6 (New International Version)

4My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

Likewise, someone listening to that sermon could have asked St. Paul, "If you dropped dead this very minute, what could possibly prevent you from being in your Savior's arms the next?"

And yet St. Paul, a man who has gone to the seven heavens says things such as this:

1 Cor 9
23And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. 24Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Can you imagine a giant of the faith such as this believing that he could possibly be castaway? What then am I to presume that I am saved?

Like St. Paul, my conscience is clear, but I'll await God's judgement. Lest it be said of me:

Luke 14 9And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.

No. It is clear in Scripture, he that exalts himself is abased.

I'm presuming that the fact you're taking part in this discussion shows you've committed your life, as much as He's given grace to do so, to Him.


I can understand a certain humility here; after all, the grace of God is, at least to me, almost unbelievable; the whole concept of unconditional love is so foreign to my experience that to think that the infinite, almighty loves ME is boggling. But humility that says no where God says yes doesn't seem to be humility.

Where do I say no to God's yes?

Just one point about the verse that you quoted: "...every man shall have praise of God." I have to believe that includes both of us, right here, right now.

If that verse meant what you said, it would be an error. Since not every man will be recommended or rewarded by God.

But in this verse, praised means "appraised or judged" by God.

Your hope in God is fully justified. He that started a good work in you will bring it to completion in the day.

Thank you! May God bless you abundantly!


De Maria